The Blade 400 Bible
12.01.2009 is the final version.
Email me for suggestions etc. Pete (Slyster) from MN... petefug@gmail.com
INDEX
01.......
General tips. (NEWBIES
go here!)
02.......
Instructional videos.
03.......
Lubrication (and were to use Loctite)
04.......
Batteries.
05.......
B400 Parts and spare parts to have on hand!
06.......
Main shaft and gear and one way bearing.
07.......
Feathering shaft.
08.......
Main blades + balancing.
09.......
Motor pinions.
10....... BEC/ESC.
(and WHY the need..)
11.......
Head/Tail setup.
12.......
Gyros and servos.
13.......
Radio fixes/settings/curves... some newbie settings.
14.......
Receiver related information.
15.......
Belt stuff...
16.......
Factory default settings.
17.......
BLING! (CNC head and tail etc...)
18.......
A general maintenance routine
19.......
RunRyders tips.
20.......
Helicopter future after the B400?
21.......
Simulation
22.......
Motor replacement
23.......
Tricks (improvise!)
24.......
Blade grip mod (more pitch)
25.......
General Maintenance Tips
26.......
RTF? (What do check before you fly your new heli)
27.......
Heli tool set
28.......
Flying lessons- How to fly (tutorials etc)
29.......
Adding bright LED's for fun and orientation.
30.......
Painting the canopy and blades.
31.......
Winter gear
32.......
List of bearings
33.......
3D flight!... (moves glossary so far....) and tips...
34.......
The ULTIMATE Blade 400 setup!
WATCH
THESE FIRST!
Finless HELI BUILD and RADIO and SETUP videos
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692
WHAT PART IS
IT?
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Blade 400 parts and part numbers exploded
view
http://www.slyster.com/heli/b400ex.pdf
NOW one with mouse hover for part number!
http://www.hobbyzone.com/exploded-diagram-eflite-blade-400.html
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#1- SOME GENERAL HELI TIPS
DO YOUR RESEARCH!
What is swash mix... good article
B400 flies
best with some mods!
Just so you know... it is
best to upgrade the gyro and servos.
The stock gyro/servos are weak.. will make it harder to learn on this
heli. They strip.. they don't center
well.. and the tail doesnt hold.
With the typical upgrades to the Hitec HS65
servos on the cyclic and GY401 gyro and S9527 (or any good servo) on the
tail... this heli flies just as good as any T-Rex450. Don’t take my word for it----> http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=1134204
- Eflight-WIKI
http://www.eflightwiki.com/eflightwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
- http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t394954p1/?highlight=Blade+400
- http://www.helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=373271&postcount=1
- What are “pitch and
throttle curves”?
http://www.swift-tuning.com/curves.php
Helicopter Terminology
for newbies and experts alike!
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=1110563
- Blade 400 repair site
http://www.repairblade400.com/
- Tips for repairing a heli after a crash
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=121733
Blade 400 for dummies
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=66100
- Blade 400 Do’s and
Don’ts
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=102397
- Learning to fly
http://www.littlerotors.com/flyinglessons/index.aspx
Radd’s flight school of
rotary flight (NEWBIES!)
http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html
- Buddy box trainer setup
http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=97113
Setting up a CCPM Heli (from RC Heli Magazine)
http://www.rchelimag.com/pages/howto.php?howto=6
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Stock head and tail photos
http://www.slyster.com/heli/stock.htm
more... http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=99431
HOW TO SOLDER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4
and also http://www.swashplate.co.uk/ehbg-v17/ch11s04.html
USE a SIM! Clearview a great sim value for $40
http://rcflightsim.com/
General agreement is that Phoenix
sim is the VERY best for helis ($150)
A sim chart is available here:
http://www.emptynestgames.com/rc_sim_chart.html
Excellent general heli setup guide
http://www.digimemphoto.com/guides/backguide.htm
Good swash leveling thread
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=96992
B400 PNP manual.
Just in case many of you haven't seen this, I've been looking through the PNP
Version of the Blade 400 Manual and found A LOT of useful info there. Proper
swash plate heights, link lengths, etc. I wish they would have included this
info in the RTF Version as well. Thought some of us newbies would like to see
this. "BennyTRD"
http://www.slyster.com/heli/pnpman.pdf
T-Rex style canopy and
grommets
These work so they canopy
clicks on like the trex.. SO nice!
http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet/the-558/Trex-T-dsh-rex-3dx-450/Detail
http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet/the-347/Trex-3dx-450-3dx400/Detail
#2-
BLADE 400 HELP VIDEOS- really for ANY CP heli.
Finless index! (SEE
THIS!)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692
Note.. there ARE more then listed here... search
Youtube
DX6i part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGtwrt8FzO0
DX6i part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFK6B9X6ESA
Gyro/Servo setup part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53TeGHTkv2E
Gyro/Servo setup part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyPNzjoO9W0
Head setup 1.. servo/swash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1JdYzfDxA8
Head setup 2.. washout/flybar/blades http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS7L-bapzRQ
Head setup 3.. more... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzkwkUnwui0
Head setup 4.. tracking.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI0Zoi2vFvs
Tail setup.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_G7EpY0Jeo
Feather shaft repair part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWKTWMea1Y8
Feather shaft repair part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si2JkFPp_oA
Feather shaft repair part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9A9yN7CbyU
Main shaft repair part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htjmfyNCTvw
Main shaft repair part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVYjWJb3DEw
Main shaft repair part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmeR5yeUylk
Hover theory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHE8kvc1LwA
Approaches and deceleration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PX7PMFFhzY
BEC 101 http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=55538
NOTE! Sokals videos are also availble at high
quality here!
http://www.viddler.com/explore/sokal/videos
More.. Helimix's B400 repair vids http://youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8C3DF9E66E67BEC1
Mikepmurf's vids
Complete Disassembly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay9LJ3xRQvs
Jasmines awesome really detailed B400 repair vids
"No matter who you are, something will happen
eventually and you'll have to rebuild your helicopter - the trick is to make it
come out better than it was. Helis need proactive maintenance, so even if you
don't crash it, you're going to rebuild occasionally. I had flown this heli in
an airshow the day before I bashed it into a fence - it was a totally random
event - it can happen to anyone. These are simply skills you have to
know."- Jasmine
Servo Gear Replacement
http://www.vimeo.com/1695309
Blade 400 Rebuild - Part 1 - Parts
http://www.vimeo.com/1699772
Blade 400 Rebuild - Part 2 - Destruction
http://www.vimeo.com/1701565
Blade 400 Rebuild - Part 3 - Servos
http://www.vimeo.com/1712126
Blade 400 Rebuild - Part 4 - The Tail
http://www.vimeo.com/1720400
Blade 400 Rebuild - Part 5 - Gears, shaft, swash
http://www.vimeo.com/1737223
Blade 400 Rebuild - Part 6 - Washout and Flybar
http://www.vimeo.com/1775734
Blade 400 Rebuild - Part 7 - Blade Balancing
http://www.vimeo.com/1815691
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Head link measurements http://www.slyster.com/heli/b400links.jpg
(NAVY_Blade401 on RCgroups)
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MANY MORE... FINLESS BOB vids... he uses T-rex but
good for B400. http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692
FYI on Loctite- "Use blue for setscrews in pinions
that use them. Use green for pinions without setscrews that don't press on.
Don't use any for brass, fluted press ons- fluted as in, if you look at the
inside of a brand new one, you can see ripples on the inside of the hole. Those
stretch and mate with the shaft when you press them on; that's why you don't
reuse them."- Osterizer
#3- Lubrication
Tips on lubing motor
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=900875
EASY way to lube the motor...
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=97726
General lubrication suggestions...
- Silicon spray for the belt.
- TriFlow oil for shafts/bushings.
- White lithium grease for servos.
- General grease for bearings.
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Sly uses mostly silicone spray for nearly everything
(links, belt, head, main gears)... because it dries and will NOT attract
stickies such as grass and dirt! But still use light oil and grease where
applicable... grease for bearings and thrust bearings in the head and machine
oil on shaft where the head slides on.
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Sokal- get some mothers wax (for cars) put on the main
shaft with swash and head removed power up the heli at 25% stick and polish the
shaft can do the same with tail works very very well. and lasts a bit longer
than a liquid
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Where to use loctite?
BLUE Loctite on all true metal-to-metal fastener
connections. CA for metal to
plastic... and none for bolts with lock nuts.
- Feathering shaft bolts- wipe off excess to be
careful of the thrust bearings.
- Grub screw in main shaft collar, and grub screw
for tail hub to tail shaft.
- Ball link bolt and nut on rudder servo horn (CA
if plastic)
- Motor mount screws.
- Tail rotor blade mount screws
- Grub screw in flybar paddle mount/adapter
- Grub screws into flybar paddle control frame rods
- Motor pinion grub screw.
- Swash balls.
Tx Tail Boom on Helifreaks.
#4-
Batteries
Zippies
available in the USA now!
http://www.flyhelirus.com/servlet/the-Li-dsh-Poly-Batteries-Zippy/Categories
Good batteries and good
chargers on the CHEAP
Charger
Lipo
What is C rating?
Remember that C-rating is only part of the equation. It
is the fraction of an hour in which the battery can be safely discharged. So a
15C battery can be discharged in 1/15 of an hour or 4 minutes. This particular
15C pack is 2400 mAh, so you can pull 2400 mah out of it in 4 minutes, which is
an average of 36 amps (same as a 20C 1800 mah pack). That's a lot more amps
than most people are pulling and it explains why these things aren't puffing
when used with the stock motor or something similar. I think somebody puffed
one with a 2221-8 though. (Fishboy77)
The Dean connectors
are easy to solder. They have soldering tabs on the wire side. Just slip loose
shrink tubing on each wire then solder. Then heat shrink the tubing. Remember
to use the female plug on the battery and the male ones on the esc.
Soldering deans video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT18mxfGRjo
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KEEP YOUR LIPOS ALIVE!
- Long term storage (fridge a bonus) at about
3.8V/cell. 3.8*3 = 11.4V 3s (7.6V for 2s)
- Allow the battery to go less than 3V per cell
will kill it! (9V for 3s and 6V for 2s)
- Fully charge to 4.2V per cell. 3*4.2 =
12.6V for 3s (8.4V for 2s)
- Lipos should be stored FULLY charged for only 5 days or less.
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Cheap 12V power
supply http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26oqItOY3lE
... Sly says "otherwise eBay has other options.. I
am using a $20 one that is meant to power portable DVD players for cars.. it is
12V/6A.. plenty of power. I just cut the end off."
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- LVC is there for a reason..
but not recommended you let lipo reach it... (if you do.. you
have reach a load voltage of 9V.. that is too low and WILL damage the battery)
- Gunny
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Science lesson
from Skunky!... Max amp discharge rates:
"I will use the 1800mAh as an example. Take the C
rating times the amp hours to get the constant discharge rate the batt can
handle. So you have a 20C 1800mAh batt. 20 * 1.8 = 36. You can discharge
at 36A continuously safely with this battery. 15C in a 2400 = 36A as well. The
C rating of a batt is the constant discharge rating."
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Storage levels and other
charging questions
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=115784
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=116029
#5- B400
PARTS to have on hand.
CHEAP Lipos
and CF blades
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=105383
The items
in bold are the parts that almost always get damaged...
Main Blades EFLH1415A
Blade Grips EFLH1417
Spindle/feathering shaft EFLH1421
main shaft EFLH1447
Servo gear set EFLRDS751
O-ring EFLH1158
Tail Blades EFLH1471
Landing skid EFLH1446B
Landing strut EFLH1445W
Main gear w/one way bearing EFLH1452 (too hard to replace
bearing...)
Flybar EFLH1425
Flybar paddle EFLH1428
Flybar seesaw holder set EFLH1423
Tail Boom EFLH1457
Another list of parts
with comments
EFLH1415A : B400 325MM MAIN
ROTOR BLADE SET WOOD WHITE - Worth keeping a couple of sets in stock, I like
the align 335 pro woods and they aren't much dearer
EFLH1417 : B400 MAIN ROTOR
BLADE GRIP/HOLDER SET - I've broken one of these in five crashes as the wood
baldes, spindle and main shaft absorbs most of any impact
EFLH1421 : B400
SPINDLE/FEATHERING SHAFT SET (2) - Get several!
EFLH1425 : B400 FLYBAR
220MM (2) - These are expendable but reasonably durable in the sense they can
be bent back to shape easily.
EFLH1445W : B400 LANDING
GEAR STRUT SET WHITE - Think about replacing this with Align T-Rex 500 landing
gear and skids, it is a little more durable than the B400 gear. Using the Rex
gear can lead to broken frame tabs on occasion though.
EFLH1446B : B400 LANDING
STRUT SET BLACK - See above
EFLH1447 : B400 MAIN SHAFT
(2) - Get several!
EFLH1451 : B400 MAINGEAR
W/O ONE-WAY BEARING - Though it is the gear and not the bearing that generally
breaks it is a hassle changing the one way so gears with the one way in are a
good choice. It's more money but less time and hassle.
EFLH1453 : B400 MAIN TAIL
DRIVE GEAR - I've yet to strip one of these and the main gear is way more
likely to strip
EFLH1455A : B400 ALUMINIUM
SPEED-UP TAIL DRIVE GEAR/PULLEY ASSY - Not tried this yet but may try it for
better tail authority
EFLH1456 : B400 TAIL DRIVE
BELT - Pretty durable but worth having a spare, when you get it take it out of
the packet as they are packaged folded
EFLH1457 : B400 TAIL BOOM
(2) - I go through these in most crashes, bit of a weak link in the airfram
IMO, mind you my crashes are usually spectacular!
EFLH1465A : B400 ALUMINIUM
TAIL ROTOR SHAFT & ALU.DRIVE PULLEY - Worth having as they bend fairly
easily
EFLH1470A : B400 ALUMINIUM
TAIL ROTOR BLADE GRIP SET W/HUB - Not broken one yet but they do develop a
little slop
EFLH1471 : B400 TAIL ROTOR
BLADE SET - These get dinked up pretty good so worth having some. There are
some alternatives out there that may provide better tail authority but also may
need the root filing down to fit.
#6- MAIN
SHAFT and GEAR (and one way bearing)
Great $4.00 bearing puller
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=62_446&products_id=408
One Way bearing
Pounding in the one way bearing your self? It is EZ
to put in (but impossible to take out) but be SURE you put it in
right... othewise it is backwards and you are screwed like I was... and here's
a tip... The arrow is on the bottom of bearing and goes into the main gear
with the arrow facing toward the bottom also. (thanks Helidude2)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=822975
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Replacement.
Both main gear and tail gears can just slide out left or
right when shaft is out. You can replace the main shaft without tearing
down the whole heli. Start by removing the head by disconnecting the links and
removing the bolt from the bottom of the head block. The head should then pull
off the main shaft. Disconnect the swash links from the servos and pull the
swash and washout base off the shaft. There is a single bolt beneath the main
gears the holds the shaft in, remove it and the shaft will pull out. Take the
collar off the shaft and put it on your new one, make sure you get the
orientation the same as the holes on each end of the shaft are spaced
differently. Reverse the process to install the new shaft. (Joediamond on
RCUniverse forum.) Note: Shorter hole/tip distance on top.
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Jesus bolt... I
would like a shanked bolt also. I have been using Dubro bolts. They are
stronger than the stock bolts, but fully threaded. The lower bolt rocks in the
main shaft. This shears it off over time. The Dubro bolt has lasted much longer
than the factory one did. I have been putting it in wet with epoxy. This stops
the rocking for awhile. The epoxy wears out fairly quick. Looking for a better
solution. (RotoRob)
#7-
FEATHERING SHAFTS
Yet ANOTHER! :) Best one yet?
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=103095
(hosted locally here http://www.slyster.com/heli/bestyet.jpg )
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AWESOME feathering shaft photo showing
parts and order.
Thanks Niconedz on Helifreaks... http://www.slyster.com/heli/bfsp.jpg
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ANOTHER... RHash
posted a diagram of the order and orientation of the various shims and bearings
when changing the feathering shaft. *Really* useful. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...591#post9240591
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EZ FAST feathering shaft replacement...
To fix the shaft FAST use a flybar... same threads to
screw into the feathering shaft to keep all pieces in the proper order.
(I can't remember who suggested this)
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Alternate feathering shafts
(T-Rex 450 v1) "Align part AGNH1115 (HS1003) $5.99"
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?products_id=132
http://secure.hobbyzone.com/catalog/HZ/trex/trex_parts/AGNH1115.html
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For those of you flying the Blade 400 , the F-shaft is on
backorder last time i looked, but you can use the E-sky Honey Bee King II
F-shaft, it fits perfect , (it was mentioned earlier in this thread) you just
have to use the nylon nuts on each end, i did mine today, and the blade is back
in the air ,just make sure the nuts are flush with each ends, and don't tighten
them too tight. Tx Hummingbird111
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Tip on thrust bearing assembly...The two cupped washers
that sandwich the bearing cage appear to be the same but are not. The inner
diameter is slightly different between the two. The one with the largest inside
diameter goes on first (closet to the head block). Get a feathering shaft and
slide the cupped washers on. Wiggle each washer and it will be very clear which
ones have the larger ID. Also, make sure that the open face of the bearing cage
faces the head block. It is designed to keep the grease in place..centrifugal
force. (Redfire)
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If you still have a wobble i would double check your main
shaft. A very small bend that you cant even tell will cause a lot of shake, at
that speed. Also for future reference, don't spend 7 bucks for on spindle
shaft. Align makes a set of 4 for like 6 bucks. Just a little long, but sam
diameter. Some people use shims to make up the difference, I grind down with a
Dremel, and use calipers. Only takes a min, about 15 thousands off each side
and seem to be stronger. Also I can usually get about three bends out of each
shaft before junk. If it just has one bend in spindle, I just put in a drill
chuck and bend back, you can get them perfect if you take time at it, you got
to figure that this isn't a high speed shaft, as long as you can get it strait
enough so blade grip don't isolate when you spin shaft with allen wrench it,
you shouldn't have tracking problems. Josh Mcormick
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I've been using T450's spindles as well. Works like a
charm with a couple extra washers.
I don't grind my T450 feathering spindles either. Just
buy a couple of extra head dampening shim packs. They fit the CP as well, so
you may find them with the CP parts ($1.99/ea, 8 shims per pack). Each shim is
about .005". You can just space your grips out with 5 more shims on each
side to take up the end play. Just make sure your thrust bearings aren't
binding or too happy. You'll be able to feel this by moving the grips by hand.
Don't use the thick washers that come with the 450 spindles. They are about
.050" each and will cause your thrust bearings to bind for sure when you
tighten down the screws. 2 packs for $4 and you'll have extras in case you need
to tighten up the head- Loopy1
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Strong CNC shafts for B400 http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=30_314_445&products_id=7265
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The feathering shaft is super easy to change if you use
the flybar tip listed earlier in this thread. The flybar will thread directly
into the feathering shaft, then you push the flybar through the head and pull a
new one in from the other side. Don't remember who posted that but it is great.
I can change shaft in a couple of minutes.
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About T-rex 450 v1 feathering shaft... On my Blade 400
with a T-rex Feathering Shaft, mine is setup as follows.. Grip--Step
Washer--Align Spacer--Dampener--Head Block Depending on the condition of your
Dampeners, you may need to add shims to get the Dampening stiff enough. If you
need at add shims, add them between the Align Spacer and the Dampener.
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ALWAYS use loctite on the feathering shaft bolts!
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=89245
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#8- MAIN BLADES and balancing.
Can’t figure out a nagging blade tracking problem?
One thing to check is a
cracked seesaw and other damaged parts. (Tx Windsors)
Re-shrink those stock
main blades! Quick tip: Make sure you re-shrink the shrink wrap that
is on the stock main blades. Bought a new stock set recently, and used a heat
gun to make the wrap tight. Before it had been a little bit loose here and
there. I could re-shrink it quite a bit; you could actually see it
re-shrinking! Read somewhere, that you want to re-shrink once in a while,
since the wood and wrap "works" over time, and the wrap might loose
its tension.
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Free shims for Align blades- Tx Bladelernin on helifreaks
Gallon milk jugs are perfect thickness for grip
shims.. .024
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Great carbons to try
http://www.readyheli.com/Thunder_Power_325mm_Carbon_Fiber_Main_Rotor_Blades_p/tph-325cf.htm
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Great blades to get (Radix)
http://www.curtisyoungblood.com/products_view.php?id=28
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Great tracking idea... using a laser pointer!
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=893687
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Possible? "I got a package of #60 O-rings from H-D. They are
OD 1/4" x ID 1/8".
Seem to be exactly the same size as stock."- Wolfpackin
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T-Rex 450SE rubber o-ring dampeners work great! -
Redfire SVT / Hoverpunk
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BEST blades? (cheap version)
http://www.curtisyoungblood.com/products_view.php?id=28
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Some say .1 gram scale is NOT good enough... and some say blade
balancers just cannot be trusted.. so here is a cheap balancer that can't go
wrong... 6-32 x 1.5 screw threads in tight enough to hold the blades rigid..
yet won't damage them. You can then balance very precisely using two
glasses.. but this doesn't help with CG balancing which some say isn't
worthwhile anyway.
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Most of my Blade 400 vibrations where from the factory main rotor blades. They
have a cutout for weights that is on only one side. This has made all of mine
flex at the cutout. I went with Align Pro 325 wood blades, and Radix carbons
for when I don't think I will crash. I use Align o-rings for dampeners in my
Blade 400. They are much stiffer than the factory dampeners. LUBE O-RINGS!
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Switch to Align woodies after stocks run out.. then carbons.
Great flat bottom blades http://www.jcshobbies.com/products_trex.html
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Possible great cheap blades (Freestyle 325mm woodies)
http://www.freestyle-hobby.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=167
#9- MOTOR PINION
Gear mesh article
http://www.rchelimag.com/pages/howto.php?howto=29&page=1
IMHO, 95% of the people flying the B400 do not need to be using the 10T pinion.
The 9T pinion is a $3 part and takes 15mins MAX to change. I highly recommend
anyone that is not doing "extreme" 3D to give it a shot.
Quieter, relaxing, still can do 3D.
btw.. If you are using the stock motor,
the only pinion that will work is the E-Flite EFLH1409
9T pinion gear due to the unusual motor shaft- tx grngrb
#10- BEC/ESC
Bullet sizes
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=1008932
WHY do I
need BSC or a new ESC?
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=896831
Great upgrade esc Align 35G
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=874883
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=914127
Good Align
setup and instruction thread
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=116708
BEST ESC... http://www.castlecreations.com/products/phoenix-35.html
CC ESC install http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=875610
CC ESC user guide http://www.castlecreations.com/support/documents/Phoenix_User_Guide.pdf
Good thread talking about BEC and how to install with some pix- Tx dwoodworker
and Towpilot... http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=92244
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I read this somewhere... "I would expect 6V
will destroy the factory servo's fairly quickly. I would use the 5v unless the
servo's have been upgaded. And he also notes that the BEC (use 6v) http://www.dimensionengineering.com/SportBEC.htm
is awesome!"
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- Stock ESC poor.. gets hot.. especially with upgrades.. add a CC BEC...
or a better ESC.
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cutting out the fake vents on the front of the canopy helps A LOT as well...its
gets plenty of airflow over it that way in FF- (BladeCX2Runner)
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A BEC is cheap insurance and if your going to upgrade servos, like digital tail
is a good idea. As for the FREE fan for cooling (main rotor) I have the ESC
mounted on the forward outside of the frame below the batt location and the BEC
on the other side, small vents cut in the canopy as others have done and things
stay much cooler. TX Supra6
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In my experience BECs don't get that hot. It can be mounted on the side of the
frame. Pretty easy to install, there are two ways to do it. Check out BEC 101
at Helifreak and it should answer your questions. My stock ESC gave out so i
just replaced it with a esc that had an existing BEC. I would think a good
place to mount the stock esc is underneath the frame where it can pick up a bit
more air. That would apply more to forward flight i guess though. My 35a esc on
my rex gets pretty hot after a hard run, I'm thinking of getting one
myself. http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=55538
(thanks JustinMoore12)
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To check firmware... For the AR6100e, they are currently up to v1.6, which will
obviously have the Quick Connect feature since it was actually added mid v1.2.
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Good ESC to get ($85) if issues... Castle Creations Phoenix 35.. but remember
the stock ESC is just fine IF you add the CC BEC 10A ($25)...
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You want to program it to 3 cell lipo, Low voltage cutoff,(i would suggest
soft, it wont completely cut out if you run the battery low.) disable the
brake, soft start to your desired time (longer the time the longer it will take
to spool up) and you should be good to go.. no governor.
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After replacing all servos on my blade400, ESC started to run hot. I installed
External BEC(Castle Creations 10A BEC $25Cdn). Installation was really
easy, splice the BEC wires into the power leads on the ESC then run the wire
from the BEC to the receivers BATT input then cut the red wire that comes from
the ESC to the receiver. Next cut the yellow control wire from the BEC
lead(AR6100E).
#11-
Head/Tail Setup
Chinese weight mod... pros and cons.. tennis racket affect.
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=145298
Balance the entire head! (solves tail vibes too!)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=116877
-- Putting
on the Align 450SEv2 tail a go!
(No more vibes)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=114351
Good place to
buy (or see CopterX stuff in bling!)
http://www.ka-planes.com/inc/sdetail/2346
http://www.ka-planes.com/inc/sdetail/2347
Swash mix
and amount of cyclic and paddles etc...
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=1015818
“I have a
problem with 0 pitch at center but too low or high with full stick”.. (Answer thanks to Sokal)
Set you mix to
60% keeping the -/+ values the same.
Check range if not equal then your swash is to hi or low depends on
what’s more if you have more negative then swash is to hi (for non flipped
grips) adjust swash plate position re-center every thing at mid and check again
till the range is the same ie +8/-8 then raise the pitch in the swash mix till
you get 10. For aile and elev put
the blades off to the side and put full right cyclic look at the gap between
the flybar control arms and the blade grips adj the aile swash mix setting till
it bearly touches now go full left make sure the gap is the same if not then
fly bar was not even if so input the same # in to elev swashmix
Which way
should the tail spin?
Looking at the heli tail in... blade nearest you moves
down!
Photo-----> http://www.slyster.com/heli/taildirection.jpg
When repairing the tail rotor, make sure that the belt is turned in the right
direction before reinstalling the tail rotor shaft. To do this pull the
belt straight so it is horizontal and has no twist, then rotate the belt 90
degress clockwise when vewing from behind. To check that the belt is correct
spin the main rotor blades in the clockwise direction the tail rotor should
spin counterclockwise. (NAVY Blade 401).. also you can see it better if the
tail if off and you shine a bright light into the maintenance port.
Tail seems slow?
"Rudder travel adjust" is the #1 tool for piro rate.
100% a couple a second, 40 maybe 1/2 per secone etc. Sly had this
problem.. see this thread especially post #61
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=88890
Another “How to stop
drift with stock gyro” thread
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=110186
Setup
BEST SETUP explanation so far...
If
the "0" setting is still 66, then you almost certainly haven't set up
the gyro mechanically....
·
Set "0" to 30 and "1" to 70. Zero
the rudder trim and sub-trim. Flip the TX switch to "0".
·
Plug the battery in and let the gyro sit for ~10
minutes or so. This allows the gyro to warm up, and hopefully eliminate any
thermal drifting.
·
Switch the TX gyro switch to "1" -- heading
hold mode -- and adjust the rudder sub-trim until the servo creeps as little as
possible. With the stock gyro you probably won't be able to eliminate creep
entirely.
·
Switch the TX gyro switch to "0" -- rate
mode.
·
Hover the heli, and note which way it wants to rotate.
Land and adjust the length of the tail linkage to correct.
·
Repeat the last step until you can hover the heli with
little or no rudder input.
·
Reduce the "0" (rate) gyro setting from 30
toward 0 until you start to get "wag", then back off a bit.
·
Flip the TX switch to "1" -- heading hold
mode -- and increase the "1" setting from 70 toward 100 until you get
"wag" and back it off a bit.
You now have a correctly adjusted gyro. (My TX settings are around 25 and
75, but your setup may differ.) Thanks to grnbrg on RCGroups!
Another GREAT setup explanation
Hello Everyone, Please do not feel like you have to read this post, but if you
are having any trouble with your GY401 and 3400G combo drifting, I have finally
figured mine out. I was extremely frustrated as my heli was drfiting to the
left slightly and I was having to use 1 click of trim to keep it somewhat
centered. Not no more, now my heli is 100% locked with no trim or subtrim at
all. This is what I did.
1) Bought new JR standard servo arms (JSP98080), and fastened the ball link to
the closest hole to the screw center on the outside. These servo horn's have no
weird arc to them, and are straight up and down. (makes finding 90 easier)
2) Make sure all rudder trims and subtrims are centered.
3) Place horn on servo and power up heli in HH mode. Then flick into std. rate
mode (I had mine at 30%). Then adjust linkage mechanically so slider is in
middle of tail shaft (via threaded rod)
4) Adjust limits on GY401. Mine fell at approx. 120. I know this is on the
higher side, but it works.
5) Adjust the delay to approx. 10-15 on the GY401. I know it says to put at
zero but it works.
6) Test limits to ensure no binding.
7) Switch between rate & HH mode 3 times fast to program center on GY401.
8) Turn off heli.
9) BIND, then turn off heli again.
10) Turn on heli and go test it out.
With this setup the limit is very high, but when you do this, it allows you to
set the gain on the gyro much higher, this resulting in a much better hold. I
have my gain at about 79% with no wagging and a very locked tail. Also I found
by adding a little delay, it got rid of the hard stop the tail does when
changing directions, thus allowing you to increase the gain even more. Thanks to Jlsider on Healifreaks
How do make the tail HOLD! (Thanks to Wolfpackin)
To get rid of wag reduce the gyro gain.
To stop drift:
Move the linkage ball to the middle hole on the servo arm.
Set the heli up in Rate mode (approx. 25% gain) so there is as little drift as
possible. Make all adjustments mechanically by adjusting the linkage length of
the tail pushrod. While in rate mode also make sure the servo arm is centered
and square with the pushrod.
Then switch to HH and hover. Use rudder subtrim to "trim out" any
drift while flying. Don't worry about what the servo/slider/gyro does while on
the bench.
Go back to Rate mode and check your hold, if needed make further mechanical
adjustments. Go back to HH and tweak subtrim settings again.
Using this method I usually need 1-2 clicks of regular trim to start every
flight. This varies depending on temperature, battery and mood of the gyro.
Once I set the regular trim I don't touch it for the entire flight. I get a
solid hold with no drift.
Also, make sure you let the heli acclimate to the ambient temp you are flying
in.
And, I found that turning the physical gyro gain pot to full CW helped, others
have found full CCW to be better. Experiment to see what works for you.
Make sure the pushrod has a straight shot between the servo arm to the tail.
Setting things up the way I described takes a lot of back and forth between HH
and Rate but if you stay with it and try different combos you can get this gyro
servo combo to work pretty darn good. The main rule is to use mechanical
adjustments in Rate mode and subtrim adjustments in HH mode for no drift.
After installing HS65’s everything is mixed up!
By Jasmine- The balls on mine went on the outside, but the 285 might stick
farther out, and you may need to put them on the inside. The thing to get it
that the link goes as perfect to vertical as you can get it - otherwise you
risk having it slip off the ball.
You may need to reverse the servos, and/or the swash mix. Just use my
method of figuring it out...
1. Go into your reversing screen and put the heli in throttle hold mode.
2. Move the collective up and down, and reverse the servos until they all
three move down when you move the collective up. Should all three be moving up
when you move the collective stick down.
3. Go into the swash mix - should not need to change the pitch channel, but
if the aileron is backwards, negate the number, and if the elevator is
backwards, negate that one too.
Good servo info page!
http://www.spartan-rc.com/resources/servodb/servo.php
New servo find.. from Buildem (Neu DS450’s)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=134162
HS65 specs
http://www.hitecrcd.com/product_file/file/30/hs65.pdf
Good HS65 servo upgrade info
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=104220
Good guide for
B401 setup
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=57491
Some
tail gyro suggestions
(From this thread http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=97863)
Good
guide to getting the GY401 drift free
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=103703
Another
good 401 setup link
http://www.helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=1121020
Logictech
2100T gyro self-calibration (hidden function), eliminates HH drift
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=103920
From Sly's experience... The HS65MG works great for learning, FF, FFF, and
loops but isn't up to the challenge of hard maneuvers and starting 3D. It is a
slower analog servo that needs so delay set if you use the 401.
"The 9257 is excellent.... I've only used it with the 401...... and
another.... You want to get the JR DS3500G for the tail, perfect servo, one of
the best matches to the 2100T. If not the JR DS3400G, Hitec HSG5083MG are both
very good choices.
"ALSO awesome alternative... Hitec Standard
Heli Gyro Pack (HS-5000 Gyro/HSG-5083 Tail Servo/3x HS-65HB Servos) [HRC40105]
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HRC40105"
"Inexpensive options: JR DS290G and Futaba S3154"
"From my experience both the 9257 and 3400G are great servo's. Won't go
wrong with either of those. 9257 seems faster, but I like the way the 3400
holds."
"Don't forget the old school 401/9650 @ 6V....still kickin"
"The inexpensive combo stock gyro and Spektrum DSP75 true-digital (275Hz)
servo works good (not the best of course). The great thing about the DSP75 is
that you can program it with the separate Digital Servo Programmer:
- Mode (i.e., fixed wing, cyclic, or tail)
- Center (i.e., 90 deg) of servo horn
- Travel limit left and right (indepedently) to avoid binding of tail slider
Makes a good complement to the lacking servo features of the stock gyro."
"jr 3400G on a 401. work great. Like it even more with it tail boom
mounted."
"I was running the Futaba S3114 mounted on the tail when I still had my
Blade, worked great with the 401 and only 14 bucks to boot"
** good setup! ** From Buildem336...
"If you want the best tail servo that works perfect with a 401 gyro get
the Ino-lab tail servo. Its faster lighter and smaller than the Futaba 9257 I
run it in my Blade 400 and my brother runs it in his T-rex 500 the tail is
perfect on both birds. "... INO-LAB 0.06sec/60 CORLESS DIGITAL TAIL SERVO
- T-REX 500..
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=359_596_597&products_id=8074
HS65 rebuild thread
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=46691
GY401 guide
http://www.futaba-rc.com/team/team-tip-002.html
Good cheap servo alternatives
I suggest you replace your cyclic servos before they fail in flight and cause a
crash. I learned this the hard way, as have many people in this forum. Many
pilots are using the Hitec HS-65 MGs with great results, but they are pricey
($35 each). I now run HXT900s from Hobby City. They are only $3.65 yet
are fast, strong, and reliable. The replacement gear sets are a buck. They will
not center as precisely as the MGs but for that price I am not complaining.
(HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo)- Fishboy77
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=662
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Tape? The best foam tape I've used is the black "servo tape"
Trinity sells it or wide Trinity... The one with the plastic center tube thing
is what i always look for, and the blue strip at the start. Some are like
rubber but ive never had good luck with it or the white type. They always fall off
after a while.installing a GY401? Check out - BowerR64
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFZN9&P=7
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKC60&P=7
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http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=57491
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401 drift issues?
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=96781
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Thread on gyro/piro limits and adjustments
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=881001
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Guess I was flying my blade400 on borrowed time, the gyro switch should not be
set to digital for the eflite DS75H stock servos !!!! It will cause them to
fail in just a few minutes. The eflite DSP75 servos are OK to run with the G110
gyro switch set to digital setting but do not come with the blade 400.
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The stock G110 gyro is a rate AND heading hold (HH) gyro. The way you set this
in the radio is somewhat non intuitive. In the radio, gain values from 0% to
50% correspond to 100% rate gyro down to 0%. Radio gain values from 50% to 100%
correspond to 0% up to 100% HH. So . . if you want maximum rate gain, you
would set the radio to 0%. Maximum HH gain, set radio to 100%. Now, 50% radio
is 0% rate, 0% HH, so essentially the gyro would have no control over the tail.
DO NOT FLY WITH RADIO GAIN AT 50%! Unless you like the challenge, that is...
Going further, if you set the radio to 75%, this is actually 50% HH gyro gain
(since 75% is between 50% and 100%). Likewise, 25% radio = 50% rate gain. Gotta
do a little math to figure out gyro gain values for other radio %. To me, they
should have made the radio display go from -100% to +100% instead of 0% to 100%.
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Logictech 2100T Gyro + 3100G Servo Combo Set AWESOME + cheaper
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ALSO awesome alternative... Hitec Standard Heli Gyro
Pack (HS-5000 Gyro/HSG-5083 Tail Servo/3x HS-65HB Servos) [HRC40105] Just the 3 servos around $70
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HRC40105
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You gotta turn it all the way to 0%. Huge difference. I have mine at 0% on
the gyro and 78% on the TX and it holds great (I have it in the 2nd hole from
the center on the servo horn. A lot of guys here use the 3rd/middle hole. Mine
had binding with the 3rd hole but the 2nd hole was the sweet spot for me).
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Basically, it is controlled by the TX gyro gain settings.
00% = RATE mode gain of 100%
10% = RATE mode gain of 80%
20% = RATE mode gain of 60%
30% = RATE mode gain of 40%
40% = RATE mode gain of 20%
49% = RATE mode gain of 2%
50% = HH mode gain of 0%
60% = HH mode gain of 20%
70% = HH mode gain of 40%
80% = HH mode gain of 60%
90% = HH mode gain of 80%
100% = HH mode gain of 100%
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Just make sure that the tail is set up correctly in rate mode (page 24 & 25
in the manual tells how to set the settings in the TX). Mine had a bit of a wag
until I corrected it via the tail servo linkage.
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I picked up my B400 on Saturday. Out of the box it had some tail wag, so I read
the instruction manual and low and behold this gyro behaves like the esky HH
gyro. The factory settings are both set to be in HH mode. I think that part of
the problem is the tail needs to be set up in rate mode. After I figured this
out per pages 24 and 24 if the instruction manual, I was able to use the gyro
switch to switch back and forth from rate mode to HH mode by changing the gyro
settings in the TX. I set the "0" setting to around 65%, if I
remember correctly, and the "1" setting to 25%. The reason is to be
in rate mode the gyro sees 0 as 100% rate mode and 50 as 0%. Anything over 50
is HH mode. In other words I have the "0" on the gyro switch in the
gyro setting in the TX set at 65% to be in HH mode and the "1" on the
gyro switch in the gyro setting in the TX set at 25% to be in rate mode. So,
when I switch the gyro switch back and forth I can see that the tail servo
moves correctly between rate and HH modes. When in HH mode the tail behaved
like it should, but when I switched to rate mode the tail drifted to the right
(counter clockwise). That told me that the tail needed a little more pitch via
the servo to slider link because I can't move the servo like I can on my
kingV2. I didn't have time to do this yesterday, so I still need to make the
proper adjusts to see if I am right.
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http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=57491
gyro gain in tx has to be more than 50
then plug in the batt and the 401 LED should be a solid red for hh mode i use
70% (SOKAL)
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INSTALLING NEW SERVOS... Reverse 65's in the radio! The HS-65's need to
have their rotation set for the position you have them installed hence the
"servo direction" this is set in the transmitter. I do not have mine
handy right now but it's in either the set-up or adjust menu. Also the same
with the Swash Mix, being that you will have changed the servo direction of
rotation from stock settings the movement of the Swash needs to be adjusted
also, again this is done in the transmitter menus. The Sub Trims have to
do with the installation of the servos and done prior to the two steps above,
sorry, the idea is you get the control arms as close to the 90 degree angle, to
the servo case, then use the sub-trims to get them right at 90. As you
may have been discovering, if you are new to all this and learning as we all
are you may want to spend an evening doing it all over. First take a look the
Finless Bob videos on the head assembly and set up, they are specific for a
Trex but all the theory and procedures apply to the 400, basically the same or
close, the rex has an additional adjustment for the flybar rotor top but the
IDEAS are correct. Not only will you get it set up correct but as you are
flying you will be more able to make the small adjustments with the knowledge
you have gained. You'll need a pitch gauge, ball link pliers, Allen
wrench a bit of grease or lubricant, Phillips screwdriver, patience and a few
of the beverage of your choice.
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O.K. I figured out what was wrong with my elevator travel. Long story short I
moved the two pushrods balls in one hole closer on the servo horn. This will
not look right when compared to stock which is parallel. The pushrods now look
like an isosceles trapezoid with the narrow side on the servo horn. Evidently
the HS65Mgs change the geometry somewhat.
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Yes second hole is used, you always want to try and match that up as close to
stock as possible. It may be a good idea to put the ball links on the
inside of the elevator servos horn. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=877952
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Servo center/limit to avoid binding:
The big gear (last on top) has notches that limit the servo travel. I was
having binding after replacing a few gear sets the other day and noticed that.
Maybe you could mention it, as if you don't setup the last gear correctly, the
servo will not give you full travel, will bind and may fail.
1) open front cover
2) replace gear set if necessary,
3) place front cover temporarily
4) turn on receiver, center all sticks in throttle hold
5) turn off receiver, remove front cover again
6) remove first gear, and place it back making sure the notch inside the front
cover is centered between the two limiters on the gear.
7) replace cover, enjoy. (From Dexter)
#13- Radio
settings/curves (use curves at your own risk!)
Using a DX7 with the B400
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=122299
DX7
‘secret’ recalibration instructions :)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609802
How
to set gain on the DX7
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=115067&highlight=gain
More DX7 and setup help from Gino (see his blog)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=118778
Switch Spektrum radio to mode 1 or mode 2
http://www.max3design.com/soporte/RC/DX6i/DX6i_mode_change.htm
Trim swtich fix
There is a design issue on the DX6i. The digital trims have failed on a
number of transmitters. I do not know how common the problem is, it depends on
how often you use the trims and how much force you use. Horizon uk will send
out new trims under warranty. The
digital trims sit on a small pcb and contain a small black plastic 'T' shaped
rocker which rests on two pcb mounted switches.As you push the trim left or
right the corresponding switch is depressed and you hear a click. The problem
is that the black plastic rocker is in some cases not strong enough and the
rocker can fully or partially break at a right angle join which seems to be the
weakest place. This can be fixed at the flying field by swopping with a trim
that you do not use while flying and of course you can always use subtrim. Some
people have strengthened the trims with epoxy. The trims are easy to swop if
you have a small screwdriver with you. Others have found that fitting a small
fibre washer under the pcbs reduces the force on the rocker and has so far
prevented the problem. So long as you don't panic if this happens to you while
flying it is a minor issue. If you know it might happen then it won't. I
swopped my tail/rudder trim with the throttle and strengthened it with 'hard
plastic' glue... thanks Chris John
Online manual for Spektrum DX6i
http://www.spektrumrc.com/ProdInfo/Files/SPM6600_DX6i_Manual-LoRes.pdf
Fixing the roller
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=900897#post900897
Stock settings
Norm
T 00-25-50-75-100
P 35-43-50-75-100
Idle up
T 100-90-85-90-100
P 000-25-50-75-100
But forget stock..
here are GOOD settings for learning and experienced alike
NORM
T 00-60-70-80-90
P 40-45-50-75-100
IDLE UP
T 100-100-100-100-100
P 00-25-50-75-100
FIRST fly with
30% expo for aileron an elevator.. and go DOWN from there.
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Flatspins addendum on
the stock DX6i settings
ON REVERSE SETTINGS
Eflite's radios see all
other manufacturer's servos as reversed. Here is where to put them to in case
you have non-Eflite servos: ELEV - R, PITCH -R (All others N)
NOTE: This worked after
I switched plug positions for the two L & R head servos on the Rx. You may
have to try it.
ON TRAVEL ADJUSTMENTS
Because I have the
GY401, I opted to leave Rudder travel at 100% and adjust it on the Gyro
instead.
ON GYRO SETTINGS WITH
THE GY401
Normal: 50%, Stunt 60%
(good place to start)
ON SWASH MIX
Since I was just
scrolling down the Tx menu and happened to see this function first, it would
not let me make any adjustments! It seemed locked on INH! Once I figured out to
set the SWASH TYPE first, THEN the swash mix could be set.
THROTTLE TRIM
As soon as you get back
to the main menu, BE SURE TO MOVE THE TROTTLE TRIM LEVER ALL OF THE WAY DOWN!!
If you don't you will get a start up surprise. As soon as the Rx boots after
you plug the battery in, the rotors will start spinning. Probably not fast
enough to do serious damage, but fast enough to freak you out.
#14-
Receiver
"Oops!" I fogot where to plug things
in on rx !!!
http://www.helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=734191&postcount=7
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AR6100e v1.6 update... they are version 1.2. Upgrade is version 1.6. Easiest
way to check is look on the edge of receiver to see if 1.2 or 1.6 is there.
Second way is, while radio and rx is powered (definitely want to hit throttle
hold), move a stick in full one direction, quickly disconnect battery, move
stick in full opposite direction, and reconnect. If you get instant control
change and flashing light on RX, you have latest. If no flashing light and it
take several seconds to get the change, you have old version. (Can possibly do
with out stick deflections and just check for flashing rx light.)
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Connections? AUX=PIT, GEAR= GYRO SIG yellow wire, RUDD=GYRO
#15- Belt
Number
of Teeth?
You
can use either Align Trex 450 or Eflite B400 belt. The eflite belt 400T and
align is 397T
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shine
a BRIGHT flashlight into the inspection port and look into the end of the tube
and you can see if the belt is twisted or not. (Sly)
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Inspection and replacement
You have to take the TR shaft block in the frame out --
the 4 screws (2 on each side of the frame) just below & to the rear of the
main gear holds this block in place. You will have to take the rcvr out as well
(and the main gear too for when you replace the belt). You can then remove the
TR shaft block down & out of the frame. I put Velcro on my rcvr so I can
remove it easier later on (also to try & isolate it better from the frame).
Replacing it is a little trickier. Here are some tips I remember from when I
replaced mine (unfortunately I didn't write it down -- going from memory here):
1. the belt is not stiff enough to push through the boom, so I used a long
stiff wire with a hook at the end to pull/fish the belt through from the other
side.
2. The belt needs a 1/2-twist in the boom, since the TR gear is horizontal. I
can't remember which way you twist it -- what I did was move the belt by hand
the same way the TR gear rotates to make sure the rotor moves correctly. Note
that the TR gear moves opposite direction from the main gear.
3. When replacing the TR block, get as much slack in the belt out the boom end
as you can, push the boom in the frame as far as it goes -- hopefully this gives
you enough slack so when you slide the shaft block back up, the belt pulley
just goes through the belt. I seem to remember using an Allen wrench to help me
stretch the belt a little in the frame.
I don't know if it's easier to put the belt around the TR gear in the frame
first, or do the TR end first. I did the TR first, but I often tend to do
things bass-ackwards.
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LUBE belt with Liquid Wrench (or equivalent) Silicone Spray from hardware/auto
parts store! Most use this. Conditions and lubes the belt.. and
dries so it will not attract dirt and dust etc. Helps with static.... some say
FOOD SAFE silicone spray is best for not damaging the belt. (although I
don't know where to get food safe silicone)
#16- FACTORY SETTINGS
Factory throttle curves are:
Norm: L = 0%, 2 = 25.0%, 3 = 50.0%, 4 = 75.0%, H = 100%
Stunt: L = 100%, 2 = 92.5%, 3 = 85.0%, 4 = 92.5%, H = 100%
Hold: 0.0%
Factory pitch curves are:
Norm: L = 35.0%, 2 = 42.5%, 3 = 50.0% (0 pitch) 4 = 75.0%, H = 100.0%
Stunt: L = 0.0%, 2 = 25.0%, 3 = 50.0%, 4 = 75.0%, H = 100.0%
Hold: same values as Norm pitch
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Some of the setup list values are different from what is shown on Page 79 of
the Spektrum manual. I will only list the items that are different from the
manuals values:
Model Name: BLADE400
Reverse: AILE-R, RUDD-R (all others N)
swash type: CCPM 120*
Thro Cut: Position - INH
Timer: Down timer - 04:30
Now for the adjust list (Page 105).
D/R&EXPO: the "0" switch positions for AILE and ELEV are at 90%
D/R. All EXPO's are at INH. Travel Adj: RUDD: <90% and >90% (note
you have to move the rudder stick left & right to set the separate values).
Gyro: Rate 0: 66.5% Rate 1: 64.0%
Throttle and pitch curves as listed above
Swash Mix: AILE: -75%, ELEV: -75%, PITCH: +85%
Mix 1: INH
Mix 2: INH
#17- BLING
Align
450SEv2 tail a go!
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=114351
Head speed and super cyclic response tips
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=99413
FG canopy
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=421_626&products_id=8444
Xheli stuff
http://www.xheli.com/bl400codealh.html
WHY go metal?
(Why go Copter/X cnc part)- "...to answer your question you can get
more collective and cyclic pitch, run higher headspeed, more blade options, 4mm
spindle vs 2mm stock spindle." (SkunkyMagoo)
METAL HEAD!
Copter/X CNC parts... $100 for the head and tail.
Easy as pie to install. Just slide it on. (Skunkymagoo)
Some links.
http://heli-bros.mybisi.com/product/24146/Main-rotor-set-V2_73718.html
http://heli-bros.mybisi.com/product/24146/Tail-rotor-set_73730.html
and...
http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=173_175&products_id=5445
http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=173_175&products_id=4776
Skunky also says... (about how to install) Remove the copterx swash and put the
copterx balls on the inside of the stock swash. Install the stock swash on the
head. Slide it on and slide in the jesus bolt. Make sure you go over
everything with loctite.
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Good cheap bling CNC here!
http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet/StoreFront
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Canopy painting: The spray paints from Tamiya and Pactra work well. Wipe down
the canopy with alcohol or something to remove any mold release agents or oils
from handling. Everything I've tried flakes a little (after a crash) when the
gel coat (fiberglass canopies) is fractured. On the cheap plastic ones, the
paints stick pretty well. You can try an adhesion promoter like this
from Napa. (Paint Adhesion Promoter. Item#:
MS 6246).
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RE: CNC head stuff.... I would use the Copter X head, that's what I'm putting
on my T-Rex. http://heli-bros.mybisi.com/category/Parts_24146_Page1.html
60 bucks vs easily twice that for the align v2 or eflite parts. I know
someone has put a trex head on a blade 400 im not sure where i saw it though.
CNC tail is like 30 bucks. IMO- JustinMoore!
The parts are Align TRex V2 compatible so if you can't get CopterX parts easily
you can get the Trex stuff and it will fit just fine (more than likely you'll
only need spindles and tail shafts) The jury is still out on the strength of
the front part of the tail case, and seems to be the one weakpoint in the
setup. You can get them from either heli-bros.com or ehirobo.com.
Mon_T
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Copterx
Head and Tail installation and setup with PICS.
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=103783
#18-
General maintenance routine
One suggestion from xpower180 on
HeliFreaks
Head off
Main Shaft out (checked for straightness / Cleaned / Re-Greased)
Main Gear out and checked (Bearings cleaned and Re-Greased)
Boom off
Belt checked over
Tail checked over when removed (Cleaned / Re-Greased)
Swash checked for levels at low-mid-high
Feathering Shaft / Blade Grips checked (Spindle / bearings cleaned and
Re-Greased)
All screws / bolts checked for tightness
#19-
RUNRYDER blog and tips
My son and I have found some very simple and easy to do mods that have
enhanced the flight performance of our B400, and we thought we would share
them. While all of these mods are not intended for the new heli pilot, the more
experienced pilots will find them useful. I did all these mods one at a time so
we would know what worked and to what extent. All mods were done after we had
plenty of time on the stock machine as well.
The first thing we did was make sure that everything from the servo arms, swash
plate, washout arms, flybar cage and mixing levers were all level at half stick
and zero pitch on the blades. Dot not use any sub trim on the servos and get
the servo arms as close as you can by trying different splines, and use linkage
to level everything else.
Next, put the flybar directly over the boom and make sure your head block /
grips are 90 degrees to the boom. If it is not, grab the mixing base in one
hand and the head block in the other, and give it a gentle twist to correct. If
it is out, it won't be much, and this will correct any swash timing issue it
might have. The pins in the head block will tolerate a small amount of twisting
easily.
To optimize the tail servo / gyro we moved the link ball down one hole (third hole
up from servo arm mount screw) and we were able to turn the gyro up from 70% to
78%. The tail is now holding very well, even in fast backwards flight and
backwards rolls.
Next, I stiffened the head dampening. I ended up with a total of .025 thousandths
a side. I basically added shims until the thrust bearings got notchy and then
removed one. This stiffened the head up quite a bit and gave it a more locked
in feel.
Next, I installed a set of T-rex 450 5 gram paddles. They did help with cyclic
authority but it was a rather subtle change. Nothing drastic.
Next, I installed a set of Radix 325 blades. The blade change made a big
difference. The Radix blades were about 10 grams liter than the stock wood
blades and 10mm shorter. To use the Radix blades you must use the included grip
shims. I also added an extra .025 shim per side that are not included but had
left over from another set. The total shim thickness is .065 on both sides of a
single blade. The Radix blades are more expensive then the stock wood blades,
so I would not recommend them for the new heli pilot. The stock wood blades are
high quality and do work very well.
I don't particularly care for the canopy mount rod and how it slides back and
forth while trying to install the canopy. I initially installed heat shrink
tube on each side to keep it from sliding, but have since had to split the
frames and cut it off to slide the rod out. When I put it back together I used
some thin wheel collars on each side and gently snugged them down. If you use wheel
collars make absolutely sure that the servo arms and fore aft bell crack will
clear them.
Next, I gave the belt a light coat of silicone spray to loosen the tail belt
and allow it to run smoother and free it up. The silicone dries tack free and
will not attract dirt.
Next, I installed a Thunder Power 2200V2 pack. The thunder power pack bumped
the head speed up to 2900 which made the heli more nimble. I would not
recommend the TP pack to new heli pilots strictly because of cost and the
possibility of crash damage. The E-flite packs work very well, are cheaper, and
work with the supplied charger.
Next, I flipped the grips and mixers. Flipping the grips puts the mixer on the
leading edge and allows the blades to react quicker and more precise. Flipping
the mixer gave us more direct input and more pitch / cyclic range. While
flipping the mixer does make the heli more responsive, it does make it less
stable. By doing this mod we have achieved 12+12, high unobstructed cyclic
throws and still have some reserve throws. I was also able to move the points
in the swash mix program to the 65% range. This allows the heli to respond to
cyclic / collective pitch changes quicker for a given input. I definitely do
not recommend this mod for the new heli pilot, but if you are an advanced pilot
and want to play around, give it a try. I think you will find it really wakes
the little heli up.
After doing all these very simple mods, our B400 is now crisper responding and
has a more locked in feel. It will tumble, roll, chaos, piro flip all on axis
and is more precise.
Horizon did not design the 400 to be this aerobatic right out of the box. They
were more focused on giving the entry level to advanced pilots a RTF heli that
was stable and flew well out of the box along with a heli that would be the
next step from the CP and CX. I personally think they achieved their goal, but
with just a little TLC, you can have even the next step beyond their design.
As with all mods, consider each one carefully. Some will benefit all pilots
while others will only benefit the very advanced fliers.
Update:
Over the past couple of days we have been experimenting with tail servos. The
servos we have tried are, stock of course, Hitec HS50, E-flite S60 and the JR
3400G. All of these servos have performed very well for us as tail servos in
our T-rex / E-flite G90 combo (how I get the G90 to work so well is another
story, and our focus is on the 110. Those that have seen it, can't believe it).
Our G90 / HS50 combo has proven very reliable and great holding power in the
past but has not proven the same with the G110. The 110 does not like the HS50
at all, and in fact, was all over the place during aerobatics. My son had to
fly the tail to keep it from blowing out. Out of all the servos we tested, the
stock has proven very reliable, if set-up properly, and works well with the
110. For hard core 3D, the 3400G has proven bullet proof, works well with the
110 and holds extremely well. I personally hate to run a servo that size /
weight on a small heli so we are putting the stock servo back in. For us, the
3rd hole on the stock servo seemed to be the sweet spot and that is what we are
going back to. If my son feels that the 3400G is worth the extra weight I will
put it back in. The ultimate combo would be the 770 / 3400G but, again, I try
to keep the weight down on small helis. For the money, I would recommend
staying with the stock servo and if you want to upgrade, go with the 3400G. The
3400G fits the stock frame without mods. Money well spent either way.
We have also been trying different cyclic servos. Servos tested, stock, HS65,
JR DS285. The best bang for the buck is definitely the stock servo. They are
light, fast, have the same torque as the 285 and have a tight gear train. They
are not as durable as a HS65 or a 285 but even with a few extra gear sets on
hand it's a great servo for the money. My son was doing some pretty wild crack
flips and rolls with the 400 today and he was very pleased with the stock
servos over the others. Enough to say, we'll keep these in and carry spare gear
sets.
It's very easy to add several ounces of extra weight by using different servos,
gyros and tail servos. The result is a small heli that flies heavy and now is
down on power. I hope this thread will allow the new heli pilots enough
information to make educated decisions and not waste money. I'd rather see them
use the saved money for extra batteries and be successful in flying
helicopters.
We have ditched the Align paddles and gone back to stock permanently. They are
one gram heavier put are crisper responding.
We are also experimenting with tail blades at this time to optimize the G110 /
stock servo set-up. I think the rite set of blades will compliment the 110 /
stock servo set-up.
PM questions are welcome and I will answer them as fast as I can. Jim...
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I found this little Q&A session very informative.. thanks to GunnyGlow on
RC Groups.
Quote:
|
Originally
Posted by Slyster Ok...
I have upgrade parts... new 401 gyro/HS65 servos etc but decided to learn the
B400 totally stock first.. learn the feel... even to the default
pitch/throttle curves. Did a good number of packs hovering... and I have a
few questions for the gurus. |
Most likely a BEC will help....higher headspeed also
helps.
Quote:
|
Originally
Posted by Slyster
|
0-45-75-85-100 might be a good place to start.
edit..I wasn't paying attention. I'm not sure if
this curve will promote longer flight times.....but it might help lower the ESC
temp. Try it and see. (headspeed is scary at first.....but learn to love it!!)
Quote:
|
Originally
Posted by Slyster
|
Cover your finger with a plastic bag and rub a lil thin
CA on it....should be fine!! (balance your blades after this)
Quote:
|
Originally
Posted by Slyster 4-
Any 'standard' preferred curves for hovering and FF for learning the B400? (I
know I have 5 of them in my tips document) |
Curves are really....personal. I bet everyone in here is
using different curves. Learn what the curves are all about and experiment a
lil.
Quote:
|
Originally
Posted by Slyster 5-
Lipo... too late (for the safety of the Lipo) when the B400 does the power
down thing? |
no....I've hit LVC a number of times. I won't recommend
it....but LVC is there for a reason!
# 20- WHAT ABOUT MY
HELICOPTER FUTURE?
Protos series...
New V3 Trex 500
Outrage G5
"Apparently you can put a trex head on the Blade by shortening the main
shaft and replacing a few ball links and balls with the blade 400 ones.
Shouldn't be that difficult IMO. Im not sure but you might be able to use the
solid trex shaft at that point as well, they come in a few options like harder
alloys and titanium. (the b400 shaft is hollow) You can get a CNC Copter x head
from helibros for like 60 bucks. Pretty much identical to the trex head. That
will be my next upgrade for mine. Personally, i would get good with the blade
400 and step up to a Hurricane 550. Cheaper than the rex500 and much more
stable. The difference in a larger heli is awesome. I loved my raptor, too bad i
don't have the space to fly it at the moment"- Justinmoore12 on RC Groups
Good post about other future helis's
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9830958
Another very good one... (Mostly Logo 400, Guai 550, Trex 500/600)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=90934
BEAM Now that Horizon Hobby
Distributors!!
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=BMH1000
Has taken on the Beam line, no one has to worry about limited parts support
now.
My Beam just gets better and better. It is still tight and quiet and precise. I
just wish I had the skills to really wing it out... Jimmy on RCgroups.
T-Rex 500. Good prices here. http://www.t-rex-parts.com
# 21-
Simulation
Sly's variant and canopy mod
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=116140
Getting the DX6i switches to work in Clearview
http://clearviewrc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=628
Another Better B400 for Phoenix
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=69672
Using your DX6i with Realflight
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=64034
Better sound for Clearview.
If you listen to the B400 sound on CV.. it's the same as the HBFP!
Download this small file... I recorded the real B400 sound.
Replace the old heli.wav in models/blade 300 3D/wavdata with this new one.
Right click and save as... http://www.slyster.com/heli/heli.wav
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Update- Stefan from Clearview will include this recording in the next version
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Sparx tweaks for Phoenix... http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=69672
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Good phoenix discussion...
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=794366#post794366
# 22-
Motor
Motor mounts us The motor mount to frame is 2.5x7mm (2.5x 8mm will
work) and the motor to mount is 3x8mm.
(If main motor dies...)
Another drop in option
![]()
trex 3dx450 sonix new 3500kv brushless moto
w/fan --- New golden version
http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet/the-1345/trex-3dx450-sonix-new/Detail
A positive note on the STOCK motor...
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=898442
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FISHBOY77- I've been running the 2216-12 (10T pinon) with the
stock ESC for some 250 flights without issue. In fact, the ESC doesn't even get
hot. And I am doing a good amount of fff and hard vertical punchouts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Xh0V2hi9o
The kv of this motor is only 3350 and I'm using a 10T pinion, so the headspeed
stays pretty low, yielding a low current draw. Just because this motor CAN pull
a lot of amps without frying doesn't mean that it will do so. Just don't
overload it and you will be fine. Also, a switching BEC will help a lot with
any heat issues.
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One option
http://www.innov8tivedesigns.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_25_49&products_id=154
Well, I went with the Scorpion HK-2213-14 instread of the 2221-8. The 213-14
seemed to be almost an exact replacement for the stock.
Stator Diameter 22 mm
Stator Thickness 13 mm
No. of Stator Arms 9
No. of Magnet Poles 6
Motor Wind 14 Turn Delta
Motor Wire 11-Strand 0.21mm (31 AWG)
Motor Kv3585 RPM / Volt
No-Load Current (Io)1.74A @ 10V
AmpsMotor Resistance (Rm)0.038 Ohms
Max Continuous Current 32 Amps
Max Continuous Power330 Watts
Weight54 grams
Outside Diameter27.9 mm
Shaft Diameter3.17 mm
Body Length25.6 mm
Overall Shaft Length47.5 mm
More options (another thread)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=890459
From Fishboy on the Scorpion 2216-12 (is it a drop in fit)
"Yup. The stock ESC is doing just fine with this motor. I think the stock
ESC is good for what it is - a 25 amp ESC. The problem is that in the stock
configuration (3800 kv motor with 10T pinion), it's overgeared. Combine this
with a lack of a switching BEC and it's no wonder so many of them are
overheating and going into thermal shutdown. The 2216-12 is a 3350 kv motor and
I'm using a 10T pinion. So even though it can deliver more power than the stock
motor, it will pull less current just flying around because the headspeed is lower."
Another opinion (Scorpion HK-2213-14 another drop it fit)
Needs NEW pinion.. 3mm.. but straight shaft. WILL work with stock
ESC. I'm using the Scorpion HK-2213-14 with 10T along with a CC 35A (and
a Sport BEC). I would say it's a darn near twin to the stock motor in terms of
performance and battery use, but definitely not a performance upgrade. Bearings
& shafts are easy to come by and the 2213-14 is cheaper than a replacement
eFlight motor... Dynarace.
ALTERNATIVE MOTORS
Helidirect and Esky brand replacement thread (eSky sounds awesome)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=860736
(Esky http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=44_392&products_id=2157
)
Scorpion
I also got the Scorpion 35A ESC, but thought that I would
simply try it with the Stock ESC first.
I put on a new 10T thinking that with the Scorpion motor having a slightly lower
KV rating the rotor speed would be safe. To my surprise it took off at just
about the same throttle setting, and responded the same. I'm no expert flyer,
so can't say if there are any real differences. The flight time was exactly the
same and both motor and ESC were only warm, so no problem there either. I may
still fit the Scorpion 35A ESC later as the Stock is only 25A.
I'm a happy bunny. It was lower cost than stock and you can get replacement
bearings and shafts which will mean no further full motor replacements in the
future.
If and when I become more expert and need the extra power, then I'll certainly
consider the 2221-8, but realize higher cost batteries and lower flight times
will then be the penalty. (Tx to Paul530a)
I'm using these in my stock motor and haven't had any problems after 40
flights. The motor seems to run alot cooler too.
http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=product&id=4394&n=SMR73C-YZZ_AF2
Source: http://www.helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=812719&postcount=31
Here's a video on replacing the bearings in a Scorpion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpTY5v0L9g
If you want the bearings for a Stock motor, then you can use Trex 600 Bearings
3x3x7mm, part number 683ZZ / H60086T which come in a pack of 4 for just a few
bucks. I replaced mine, but the shaft was also worn and the motor still
vibrated.
As for the Scorpion bearings, I suspect they're not much different in quality
to all the other motor bearings. Motor bearings are real small and spin at a
very high speed. I'm not surprised they don't last too long. I've seen some
people talking about ceramic bearings which may be better, but they cost more.
Source: http://www.helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=810309&postcount=21
Replacement motor and keep original ESC: Scorpion HK-2213-14
Source: http://helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=790668&postcount=3
(TommyBoy)
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Bearing removal:
As a beginner around 250 -300 flights on my copter it
started making a very ugly sound and landed it'self. Upon investagation it had
puked the lower bearing in the motor. As a resourceful flyer I have become a
fixit chep kind of guy as working on the enginering marvel that these are ,i'm
is much into the mechanics as the flying although I prefer the flying. I found
that the inner race was very easy to remove(after the almost invisable balls
fell out), the outer race was Quite the challenge! With a dental pick I
discovered there was nothing to grap onto or drive it out ,so I challeged a
gunsmith friend of mine to pull the outer race. He tried to tap and pull the
race with a 1/4 -28 bottom tap and discovered that it worked best on the alum
just under the race. Put it in the lathe and couldn't touch the race(hand
cranked) with a drill bit. So I brought it home and ground it out with a dental
bit,drilled a hole in the alum. to bust it in 2. Now i'm ordering a bearing
(2)from Boco Brearing (3x7x3) And I'll have an extra motor(bought a new motor)
And the repair will be easyer next time but, I jones if I don't fly. It upset's
me that E-flight dosn't make that bearing servicable as everything else seems
to be. the upper bearing is just as bad but its not as tourqued upon as the
lower. I'm 55 and this is my first real hobby and I love a challange. This
fourm would be easyer with spellcheck!
Source: http://www.helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=688701&postcount=1
(TommyBoy)
#
23- Tricks. Improvise!
Fix your own bent shafts
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=913512
Flybars can be used as:
- Flybars
- Great tool for changing over feathering shaft
- Cut it a bit and can be used as a metal cannopy mount rod (the grommets
actually hold well on the thread)
Main shafts can be used as:
- Main shaft
- Great balancing device to find center of gravity (on blades)
- Emergency stick on struts in case you break the stock ones. (Brettboz)
O-Ring alternative!
Cheap O-rings...You can also use #60 O-Rings from home depot or a plumbing
store. Pack of 10 for $1.50... Skunky
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JESUS BOLT
Bolts for main shaft and jesus bolt:
M2x12mm hex bolts
http://www.microfasteners.com/catalog/products/METSCMS.cfm
20 for 2.95 but there is shipping of 4.00 under 10.00
http://www.rtlfasteners.com/
http://www.readyheli.com/SearchResul...rch=jesus+bolt
http://www.rcscrewz.com/
http://www.smallparts.com/
http://www.metricsunlimited.com/
Ten for $1.50 M2x12SHCS
Source: http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=84385
# 24-
Blade grip mod.
Allows for more main rotor
pitch
Thread here http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=70692
Another http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=825553
Another more
recent
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=89346
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#25- SOME GENERAL
MAINTENANCE TIPS
Here's a good list from Tail Boom
Check frequently:
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Check training gear and tie wraps for tear ‘n wear
Check blades incl. grips, hubs, mounting holes (every 80-100 flights at the
latest), shrink wrap and rotation, paddles incl. set screws, belt tension, tear
‘n wear
Check blade and paddle tracking
Check electronics cables, antennas and connections for tear ‘n wear
Check gyro tape for tear ‘n wear
Check lubrication of:
- Bushings, swashplate control ball (Tri-Flow Superior Lubricant)
- One-way bearing, thrust bearings (Mobil 1 Synthetic Grease) (every 80-100
flights)
- Belt (Snap Silicon Spray; must be safe on rubber and plastic, e.g. food
grade)
- O-rings (Associated Green Slime)
- Servo gears (white lithium grease or Tamiya Ceramic Grease)
Check every 30-60 flights:
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Check servo gears and screws for tear ‘n wear (every 30-60 flights)
Check pinion, gears and pulleys for tear ‘n wear (every 30-60 flights)
Check pinion and tail drive gear mesh (every 30-60 flights)
Check head o-rings for tear ‘n wear (every 30-60 flights)
Check bearings (e.g., tail case), bushings, collar (every 30-60 flights)
Check main and tail rotor system and setup (every 30-60 flights)
Check ball ends on flybar frame rods for tear ‘n wear (every 30-60 flights)
Check every 80-100 flights:
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Perform general inspection (every 80-100 flights)
Check canopy grommets tear ‘n wear (every 80-100 flights)
Check ball links and linkage for tear ‘n wear (every season)
26.
RTF? What to check before you fly your new heli.
Better safe the sorry. You have been waiting all this time to fly
it. Imagine only flying it for less then one minute and then back to waiting to
fly it again. This time because you are waiting for parts. All this could have
been avoided if you just took 15-30 minutes to look over the heli and make sure
it it working good.
A complete setup is not required, but I would suggest you do it ASAP. When you
get it fresh out of the box, I would do a few things before you try and fly it.
1. You are going to have to charge the battery. But before you do that, check
the battery voltages. If you do not have a volt meter, you shoud consider
getting one. But if you do not have one, you are going to have to rely on your
charger. IF you do NOT have a volt meter, to not use that batter until you
charge it.
2. While the battery is charging, go over your Radio and check setting. This
will keep your mind off of "When will my Battery be done!". Look
through these forums and you can find the "default" settings for the
DX6i. Compare them to yours. There may be little differences, they do not have
to be exact.
3. Also while the battery is charging give the heli a good "Look
over" Look for any links that might have fallen off. Any parts seem loose.
Make sure all the servo are connected to the Receiver and not about to fall
out. Same with the gyro connections.
4. Battery is charged. Now Turn on your Radio and then plug the battery into
the heli to get it fired up, hopefully not literally. Make sure the
throttle/collective stick is all the way down when doing this. After everything
goes thru its start up routines, do a Pre-Flight check.
-- Turn ON your Throttle HOLD ( check and doulbe check this 0
-- Verify your Throttle HOLD is on. Move the throttle/collective up and down.
It should not start the motor. All of yoru servos should be moving though.
-- Put the throttle at center. Check for Level Swash, Level Flybar Padles.
-- Move the Right stick around. Make sure Stick Right = Swash RIght. Stick Left
= Swash left. Stick Forward = Swash Forward. Stick back = Swash Back
-- Check taht the tail servo is moving by movign the left stick right and left.
Now you have made sure all your controls are working.
5. Turn off the throttle hold and start spooling up the Heli. Do this slow and
at a good distance. You do not want to be too close to it if it wants to let
one of its parts go. Yes it has been flown at the factory, but it as been
tossed around by many people and on many trucks before it got to you. Stop
increasing the throttle when the heli is just about to lift off and then lower
it just a bit. Now look that is it runnign smooth and if you see any
vibrations.
6. Now if you feel your skills are at this point, put it up in a hover. Do not
take right off an head into a cirucit. Just bring it up into a hover and look
again for any vibs. No vibs, move the heli around a little bit. Move it side to
side. Punch the collective a little bit. Now if it all looks good to you go
give it a fly.
I know this looks like alot, but really most of it is done while you are
waiting for your battery to charge. The other things will take you 5 mins max.
After you get that Smile from flying your new heli wipped off your face, I
would highly suggest sitting down and doing a Good and proper setup on the head
and tail of the heli. The factor setup is not going to be Great. They just set
them up good enough to get them off the ground. Nothing makes a heli fly better
then a good setup,
Have fun
SPaRX
27. Heli Tool set.
A newer thread
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=942912
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Original thread for updates...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10452296&postcount=7343
Basic
Ball link pliers
Hex drivers - metric
Screw drivers - phillips - 000, 0, 1 : slotted - 1/16
Nut drivers - metric - 1.5 (2 of them), 2.0
Blade balancer
Pitch gauge (see post 7332)
Recommended
Digital meter
Digital scale (.01 gram)
Digital calipers (.02")
Soldering iron
Dremel type tool
Needle Nose pliers
Wire cutters
Hobby knives
Swash leveler (see post 7332)
Flybar lock (see post 7332)
Optional
Rotor tack (see post 7332)
Laser pointer (see post 7332)
28. FLYING LESSONS...
how to fly!
Flying lessons.... (Tx Fishboy77)
http://www.littlerotors.com/flyinglessons/
29.
Adding bright LED's for fun and
orientation (and night flying!)
(a little confusing but it's all here)
If you go to the thread that that started where my pics are, there are a http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8357045&postcount=582
of posts I did for a http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8527785&postcount=603
couple of led projects.
I did two micro and two trexes (twice). I have http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8628092&postcount=606
build pics http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9173699&postcount=609
wiring and http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9178670&postcount=611
links to superbrightleds and led calculators.
It's pretty much all http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9406964&postcount=615
there over a couple of months. Start at about #582 and go
from there. I would go with the 8MM diffused, this is the build that was
in in RCHELI. Yes, its plugged into the gyro channel using the open wiring
spots since gyro only uses signal.
You need to wire in parallel, not series. Thanh's thread has a lot in it
if you skim it, little tips. Give the led education links a look.
Once you figure out the basics, it is very easy to do, and you will do it on
every heli you have. Trust me, it helps visibility a lot.
(by Santini on RCGroups)
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30. Painting the
Canopy and blades...
From Sly...
I bought some black CF blades.. and they are VERY bad... for visibility.. so I
painted them white... and WOW.. I had forgetten how much the stock blades
tstood out! Don't spend a lot on money.. I used Rust-Oelum painter's
Touch from Home Depot and it worked great! Very tough stuff acutally...
but you WILL have to rebalance the blades after paintingl.... and I just
painted the tops.. and 1/2 to to the tip. Bit MAN what a difference after
trying some colors... white is BEST do NOT doubt it.
And after many attempts of painting the canopy or visiblilty.. what i found is
BEST so far...Canpy blazre orange (as in deer hunting) and also painting the
'windsheid' black.... use Tamyia 'for polycarbaonte' for the canopy.. and sand
first with a very fine sandpaper...
31.
Winter gear...
Good R/C gloves from Tronix on helifreaks.
http://www.modernskate.com/modernskate/product.asp?dept_id=90290&pf_id=PAAAIACNFAEFCLDP&ad_id=froogle&key_id=BurtonAKPowerstretchLinerGloves
Radio and hand warmer
Trans-Mitt
Winter Hand Warmer
http://www.greathobbies.com/productinfo/?prod_id=GHPMITT
Horizon Hobby Radio Warm
http://search.horizonhobby.com/index.jsp?D=raydiowarm&Ntt=raydiowarm&N=0&sid=11CFB8577222
Direct Radio Warm link http://www.raydiowarm.com/new_mitts.htm
32.
List of bearings and sizes.
Full list
in PDF format
http://www.slyster.com/heli/400bearings.pdf
Are ceramic bearings worthwhile?
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=76900
Great site with good bearings and heli bearing kits
http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=quicksearchkit&cat=3
Source for ABEC-3 rated bearings.. some will work for the B400
http://www.helidirect.com/index.php?cPath=95_97
List of bearings, locations and sizes.
Thanks BennyTRD on Helifreaks
1115 - 3x6x2.5 - For Main Grips, and for all 4 tail belt related bearings.
1420 - 3x8x3.5 - Thrust Bearing. 1 for each Main Grip.
1442 - 5x10x4 - Bearings in frame for the Main shaft. 3
1441 - 5x8x2.5 - Elevator swash linkage in frame. 2
1468 - 4x7x2.5 - Bearing inside the tail slider. 2
1121 - 2x6x3 - Bearings for the Tail Grips. 4
1464 - 2x5x2.5 - For Belt Tensioner and I think for the Seesaw mounts in the
headblock. 4
1433 - 17x23x4 - Bearing for the Swash. 1
3x7x3 - Stock
motor... replace with Boca ceramics.
These should work
http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=product&id=4396&n=SMR73C-YUU_NB2
Original thread http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=97594
A VERY important tail bearings tip... (help vibration) Thanks Buildem33
As everyone knows the Blade 400 get tail vibrations I had
the same problem with mine I would be going thru bearings really fast flying it
pretty hard and I ended up even trying the t-rex 450 tail case since it has
bigger bearings than the 400 does but those went out just as quickly so what I
did is I put some ABEC 3 bearings in the tail case (stock b400 case!) and in
the front tail drive pulley and I got 200 vibration free flights I would touch
the tail once every 30 flights or so to see if any vibes had returned and when
I finally felt some vibrations it was 200th flight and even then the vibes were
not enough to hear or see you could only feel them so I put a new set of ABEC 3
bearings and its been 35 flights on the second set and so far and no
vibrations. I also purchased some ceramic bearings for it and I will put them
on when these Abec 3 bearings go out about another 165 flights then I can see
how much longer the ceramics will last. This is by far the cheapest way to get
rid of the vibrations on this heli.
These are the ABEC3 bearings (for stock b400 tail and frame belt pulley)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_97&products_id=1491
These are the BETTER ceramics to replace the same...
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_98&products_id=2131
33.
List of 3D moves (glossary!) and tips.
Go to 3D school!
http://www.fly3dx.com/setManoeuvres.htm
Piroflips explained
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=109032
What are those cool moves (that I can do ) called? :)
http://www.clevelandheli.co.uk/Glossary.htm
More 3D tutorials
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=102996
34.
The ULTIMATE Blade 400 setup
Check out this B400.. it's flight... it's specs.
This has to do with bearings so to not duplicate just thread here:
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=97765
More from Buildem:
Quote:
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Originally
Posted by Slyster Awesome!
How long did it take you to learn to fly 3D like that? Did you take you
months to learn helis to the point of FFF and curcuits like most people? Or
just weeks? |
Thanks Slyster I just turned 2 years of flying and I try
to fly as much as possible lots of practice the key is to not be too much in a
hurry and dont skip stuff first learn all your upright orientations to where
you completely master them then learn your FF RF circuits then your inverted
hovering all orientations then move to inverted FF RF circuits once you learn
this first then it starts to go faster because when you start 3d if you mess up
and no matter what orientation the move leaves you in if you know them all then
you just fly out of it.
Quote:
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Originally
Posted by BennyTRD Great
flying man. The 400 looks really good. Very little bog. Whats the setup on
that? |
I have the 65mg, 401 gyro, inolab tail servo CC35, stock
motor 11t gov down to 2900 headspeed. What you hear is the head loading up with
the gov this thing does not bog at all even if I give it full collective tic
tocs.
Another EXCELLENT
SETUP
B400 w/ Spektrum
DX6i
3xHitec HS65MG
cyclic servos
Futaba GY401 gyro
Futaba S9257 tail
servo
Align 450SEv2
complete tail and Align belt
Either an Align 35A
ESC or a BEC for the stock ESC
Get 4-8 ZippyH
2200mah lipos and a few Turnigy 6 chargers from Hobbycity... LOADS of stick
time.
Charger
Lipo
Align tail
http://www.ka-planes.com/inc/sdetail/2346
http://www.ka-planes.com/inc/sdetail/2347
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